This 30-minute episode of the CreativeMornings/Charlotte Podcast was recorded immediately after Stacy Smith, local tattoo artist and contestant on the latest season of Ink Master on the Paramount Network, delivered a talk on the theme of “Surreal” to hundreds of creative Charlotteans. She discusses how she turned a passion in high school into a successful career, the business of creativity in Charlotte and handling insults from other artists. Matt and Tim also chat with Gavin Toth, co-owner fo Divine Barrel, about winning silver at the Great American Beer Festival.